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Pat's moderator application.
#31
Turest8 Wrote:[COLOR="White"]I don't think you're active enough. I have only just came back to the server and have not seen you once.

You only live almost on the entire opposite of the world. Just from my timezone I can say you never login at all. I can't judge that though, cause your timezone is far different from mine.[/COLOR]


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Imnotpurestr Wrote:[SIZE="2"]

He's saying he has never seen him helping and that is quite a large factor to the spot. I'd imagine a mod that doesn't help players wouldn't keep the spot very long.



Dis sums up what I'm talking bout.[/SIZE]

Not to be rude to the current staff here, or older staff, but using names.

-Howard
-Moh
-Joyner
-Steele
-Myself at times
-Wyatt at times

@ people who say too early.
There's been tons of mods who got mod within like 3-4 months.

-Myself
-Devin
-Harry

Just to name a few. All were excellent staff. Wink[/COLOR]
#32
I really don't know you well and maybe that's 'cause I don't play ingame anymore but I read your application and you seem to be a good guy and a mature person and a capable guy to handle things but that's not everything, maybe if you were a bit older in this community I would give my support but at the moment I'll hold my vote
#33
[COLOR="LightBlue"][SIZE="3"]I support this application and I hardly ever support any application on the forums.

Shqiptar Wrote:/no support

it's simply because being a moderator is not always fun and everything (how you imagine), it has its negative side effects and when i see the threads you've posted in the real life section about your mental issues and your drinking problems, I just don't see you fit in the position for mod.

Sort out your real life problems first and get your body in a balanced state, since a mod job can be sometimes tiring.

Therefore it's a no support from me

He's completely capable and has not shown in any way that those things will affect him from doing his job correctly. A bit too rash to come to that conclusion that he will not be able to perform the position.

Skiller People Wrote:[COLOR="Teal"][SIZE="1"]Sorry Pat, I love ya, but its wayyyyyyy to soon. Tbh, I don't see you helping all that much.

Like a week after being labeled a new comer, you make a mod app. Sorry.

/Noty[/SIZE][/COLOR]

To be honest, nobody really cares if you seem them helping or not. Perhaps if someone stayed into one area too much that would be a bit of a problem, but clearly he has not shown any of the such.

Capability > How long you have been here

My Spear Wrote:[COLOR="White"][SIZE="2"]In all honesty Pat, you don't deserve it. However, you will get it in part because of what you said in your application, you're a likable person. People view you as very in control and intelligent and this is why you'll get moderator, if not this month or the next then in a couple months. It makes me sad because I see some people who log in everyday, help, PK, and try to connect with the community in general that won't receive the position because they are from different countries and have bad English, or do not use the forums.

When you told me your plan to apply in January on tinychat I was a little disgusted. You're all smoke and mirrors in my opinion. You appear to be the great guy that deserves moderator but you aren't, I've never seen you help anyone.

You came to the server to become a moderator, which is wrong.

For these reasons, /No support.

I hope it does not affect our friendship and I hope that you will respect my opinion.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

To be honest, I saw Pat making a moderator application coming since the day he came. However, he has the right attitude, and that's why I heavily overlooked that. Unlike those other people who strive for it, he doesn't have that obnoxious attitude that they're better than everyone else and put down other applicants because they want the position themselves. He's taken all the criticism on the thread positively, and I find him one of the most capable users right now for the position.

Arcanex Wrote:[COLOR="White"][SIZE="2"]I find 4 months too soon indeed. There is alot to learn even after 2 years ingame, because of that I find 4 months too early. Also because you have alot of things to do ingame, you don't have full time to do your job, not that its really nessecary but it could be a considerable facotr.

Also I find your application very weird. It says alot about you, as person, but no specific reasons why YOU should be mod. Even though I agree on some things you say, there is something I miss in this application.

I'm sure you'll learn alot about this application and if you're still the same in like 4/5 months, I'll give you a Yes.

Sorry and Happy Holidays.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

He talked about his strengths and weaknesses and tied them into being a moderator, I think that's enough explanation. It takes a month of active game play to learn the ropes of SG, it's not that hard.

My Spear Wrote:[COLOR="White"][SIZE="2"]

What is it about then, having good grammar?

When you punish or ban a rule breaker, you're helping the players that haven't done anything wrong by taking someone who could hurt them (Like a scammer/xlogger/or duper) out of the game.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

I've repeated this a billion times, but helping is not a responsibility of moderators. If their job was to help, don't you think they would be named 'helpers' as well?

Pat has been here shortly, but I can name a long list of people who were here shortly and received the position.
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#34
Alright, I'm not trying to belittle you in any way, but after this post you can either think of me as being bias or rude, totally up to you. You slowly crept into the community, not sure if you are posting your natural responses or just trying to befriend everybody that has had a positive outlook and perspective on the whole community, but that's what it looks like you are doing. I get it you're a humble person and all that, but you have to acknowledge that there's people like me who seen this done many times before and just get shut down only to try even harder.

As for your activeness in game, being capable to become apart of the staff team just doesn't seem right this early. You're fairly new, you spend some time on the forums, you still have a lot of experience to gain throughout the server. And don't let those people say 'There's already 15 moderators, we do not need another one at the moment' because honestly, never knew that a server had a capacity of staff members.

Just a quick edit; Your ego must be set pretty high and have a higher perspective upon yourself, hey?

Insecurities Wrote:[COLOR="White"] I've only been here for a short amount of time, hardly over the minimum requirement of 3 months, which may take away from any strength in this application because 3 months isn't that long a time, and perhaps isn't a long enough time to gain the trust, and acceptance of this community, but as mentioned previously, I believe that I have gained the acceptance from this community in a much shorter time than anyone would have first guessed upon my arrival here roughly 4 months ago.

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#35
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Skullcracka Wrote:[COLOR="White"]

Sorry, forgot mod was only based on helping players. We're sorry that not everyone is as good as you at helping players.

Pat, you would be a great mod and I will 100% back you up on this app.[/COLOR]

He's saying he has never seen him helping and that is quite a large factor to the spot. I'd imagine a mod that doesn't help players wouldn't keep the spot very long.

My Spear Wrote:[COLOR="White"][SIZE="2"]

What is it about then, having good grammar?

When you punish or ban a rule breaker, you're helping the players that haven't done anything wrong by taking someone who could hurt them (Like a scammer/xlogger/or duper) out of the game.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

Dis sums up what I'm talking bout.[/SIZE]
#36
[COLOR="Black"][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Cyan"]Didn't expect this until January >.> Got impatient, I guess. You told me you'd let me see it too >.>
Since you've been a staff member of Imperium, I'm going to mostly draw on your time there to reach my conclusions.[/COLOR]


This is the hardest part of the application, mainly because I find it difficult to write about myself.
I assess myself a lot, and I constantly think of what I am, and am not capable of, and in my mind, given what I have managed to achieve in the short amount of time I've spent interacting with this community, I firmly believe that, after much consideration, I am ready for the position of Player Moderator.

Totally confusing. Not even going to bother to interpret.


I tend to look at things as neutrally as I possibly can. To me, that's a quality that any good moderator needs: The ability to look at both sides of a conflict, and to assess which side has done wrong. Even in real life, whenever I am presented with a conflict, I do my fullest to fully assess a situation and hear what both sides have to say about it before making an informed decision about the matter at hand.

[COLOR="Cyan"]Alright, this part sounds good. From your time in Imperium and the way you dealt with drama, I'll say this statement passes.
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My main strength, and the factor that could potentially lead to me gaining support with this application, is my personality. There's no doubt that I am a likable person. There are of course going to be the few exceptions that disagree with this statement, but I think that over the past few months that I have been here, I have proven that I am, for the most part a likable person, and someone that is very easy to get along with, and easy to approach.

[COLOR="Cyan"]A little arrogant, and you told me several times that people don't really like you even when I insisted it. Seems very self-complimentary, and...yeah. You get it.
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I have always been more than happy to talk to people, and answer any questions that they have had to the best of my ability, whether it be money making methods, skilling methods, assisting them with fixing glitches, or simply telling someone to report and issue to a moderator, or even to sit down and have a friendly chat.

Good enough. I've never seen you modhunt, but you do help out.

I have never given anyone a half-assed response, regardless of the question, or problem at hand.

You've ranted, but a generally fair person.

I've made many friends on here, some of whom would place a lot of trust on me, all because of the fact that I am a genuine, honest, and easy to get along with person, even on the Internet, which is something I believe is more difficult to find on something as vast as the Internet.
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No argument.[/COLOR]

When it comes to this community, I've always put my best foot forward to treat you guys as well as you've treated me, because I feel that that's what a community like this deserves.

Hmmph. People in this community aren't perfect (no offense). Mods get flamed and yelled at a lot. How will you react? Will you treat them the same way? Will you give in to them? Will you follow through? What does the community deserve?

Should I get the position, I can assure anyone reading this, that there will never be a moment where anyone will ever doubt my ability as a moderator, but more importantly as a member of this community as a whole.
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Ability...I'm willing to be that 80-90% of the community has the ability to perform capably as a mod. However....eh. I'll give this a pass.
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With that being said, there are still flaws that I am carrying with me into this application. First of all, I've been inactive in-game for the past 2 weeks. It is currently December 27th, 2012, and I know for a fact that I will be back in-game in 8 days, so this is nothing more than a short term problem.

Not your fault. Even in Finland, you've stayed active on forums.

Secondly, as hinted by the title, I've only been here for a short amount of time, hardly over the minimum requirement of 3 months, which may take away from any strength in this application because 3 months isn't that long a time, and perhaps isn't a long enough time to gain the trust, and acceptance of this community, but as mentioned previously, I believe that I have gained the acceptance from this community in a much shorter time than anyone would have first guessed upon my arrival here roughly 4 months ago.

Holy shit, runon. I'm still surprised at how much people like you at such SilGar infancy.

Thirdly, I've never been the most confident of people, but I always, always try to do what's right no matter what... and over time, I've become a more confident person in-game, and on the forums. I think that if I am given the chance at the moderator position, I will also be confident doing that once I "learn the ropes" so to speak.

Pass this. I'm tired.


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Overall....we're on good terms. We've dealt with a bit together, skyped, had some fun. I enjoy reading your rants and talking about random things in life. However...the moderator position. You haven't done anything that makes you better than anybody else. You're active, but you've stated it yourself: you're depressed, and addicted (sort of) to alcohol. I'm very split about this. On one hand, you've proven to be a very intelligent, likeable person. On the other hand, this mod app makes everything you did appear fake, just to buy trust and burrow into the community. The way you joined up in Imperium, I let you rise to the top. You did well, but gave up on us when we began hitting hard times. Is this what the server needs? Furthermore, you told me over skype you'd do it in January and let me see it. Posting it early shows overeagerness for the position.

I know I promised my vote to you, but...I really am split. We're still good friends, and I hope this doesn't get in the way.

/no support
Still split, I might change it. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR]
#37
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Skullcracka Wrote:[COLOR="White"]

Not to be rude to the current staff here, or older staff, but using names.

-Howard
-Moh
-Joyner
-Steele
-Myself at times
-Wyatt at times

@ people who say too early.
There's been tons of mods who got mod within like 3-4 months.

-Myself
-Devin
-Harry

Just to name a few. All were excellent staff. Wink[/COLOR]

Lol, you're shit staff what are you on? & A few more people could be added to the first list.

Most admins just deal with the mods, not the help calls (Which I don't believe they're responsible for anyway?) or even respond to their pms anymore, unless it's someone of importance. Ferking noobs.[/SIZE][/COLOR]
#38
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Daxerii Wrote:[COLOR="Cyan"]Alright, i've seen this comming tbh.
Let's be honest Pat. You're a very mature and intelligent guy. You know how to handle things good and you're nice to talk with. I think you would be doing a good job as moderator but there is something preventing me to support this.
I think because you only joined 4 months ago what shouldn't really be a problem though.
I think it's better for you to wait a few more months and then re-apply again.
Get to know the community better, go help some more people ingame and when you think you're ready then re-apply.
I know you'll get there eventually.

Good luck buddy, but i'm holding my vote for now.[/COLOR]

Yep. This makes sense. Thanks for the feedback man.

SlimBailey Wrote:[COLOR="White"][SIZE="2"]

This sums up everything I have to say rather nicely.

Suppawt, Pat.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

You guys.... :love:

Perroke Wrote:[COLOR="Silver"][SIZE="2"]i think this is a litle bit too soon.
but most people that are on a server for a time like u are not so known like u.
so i don't know about this one. i would say get some more activity and get some more experience.
really this app is dificult ;D but i say yes than.

/support
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Thanks for the support, and my activity in-game will rise in a week.

Klein Hugo Wrote:No Support /: Sorry but i have not seen you helping in game very much. All you really do is hangout with staff. I honestly don't think you would make a good mod. Mods are suppose to be active and you sir are not that active. I will support you if you submit another application further in the future and your helping players i will support. Thank you for your time!

Hmm... It's true that sometimes I'll take some time off and have a chat with a friend, whether or not it's a staff member or not is irrelevant, but most of my time in-game is spent actually playing the game, and as I've said before in previous responses: A lot of my helping is done via PM. I prefer to help people that way rather than talking in public chat.
Thanks for the feedback man, it's greatly appreciated.

RTFM Wrote:[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]I'm not entirely sure about this. In my opinion, we get along great together, you're really friendly on forums, and I've never had the feeling you are quite new. But I have to say that because you're new, you might not have gained people's trust yet (I'm talking about people from other timezones who barely have seen you online (play over night sometime to chat with them and show them who you are)). Also, 20k activity points isn't a lot. You're barely online, but that's because you're on holiday, I assume. And also the fact we got a quite large staff team at the moment, makes me doubt.

On the other hand, your application was very good, and enjoyable to read. Your posts on forums are really put thought in, unlike 99% of the other posts, including some of mine ^^. I questioned if your activity would be good enough for a moderating position, but I think that's okay in your case. You seem to be here for the long run.

I want to wish you all luck, but I'm yet undecided. Therefor I'm holding my vote, I would like to see more from you in game. We have the same timezone, so that should be okay.

I hope I made clear why I am holding my vote. A tl;dr, proof yourself to me.

/holding[/COLOR]

Thanks Derk. I'll do my best.

The Propker Wrote:[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Holy shit, didn't see this coming at all.

Well Pat... Even tho i know you're a great person, pretty helpful and all...
This came wayyyyyy too soon. Only 4-5 months in game.... 20k activity... It's not that great.
/It's a no for now. I'd say yes if this came half a year later.
Actually, lets say /Holding Wink[/COLOR]

Alright. That's understandable. Kiiti Eetu.

Imnotpurestr Wrote:[SIZE="2"]You're a great guy and very helpful but just way too soon. Ik u said it in your 100 words but 4 months isn't long enough to learn sg.

Sox bud but it's a no from me.

Good luck though.[/SIZE]

Thanks for taking the time to read the app Ashton, and yeah, I understand that it may be too soon.

Mircast Wrote:too soon

[SPOILER]still voted yes anyway[/SPOILER]

Hinata thanks you.

Turest8 Wrote:I don't think you're active enough. I have only just came back to the server and have not seen you once.

You live in Australia right? Then it's pretty obvious why you have hardly seen me, I'm in Germany mate.

Th3 R4ng3r Wrote:I really don't know you well and maybe that's 'cause I don't play ingame anymore but I read your application and you seem to be a good guy and a mature person and a capable guy to handle things but that's not everything, maybe if you were a bit older in this community I would give my support but at the moment I'll hold my vote

Alright. Thanks for the feedback man.

Bart Simpson Wrote:Alright, I'm not trying to belittle you in any way, but after this post you can either think of me as being bias or rude, totally up to you. You slowly crept into the community, not sure if you are posting your natural responses or just trying to befriend everybody that has had a positive outlook and perspective on the whole community, but that's what it looks like you are doing. I get it you're a humble person and all that, but you have to acknowledge that there's people like me who seen this done many times before and just get shut down only to try even harder.

As for your activeness in game, being capable to become apart of the staff team just doesn't seem right this early. You're fairly new, you spend some time on the forums, you still have a lot of experience to gain throughout the server. And don't let those people say 'There's already 15 moderators, we do not need another one at the moment' because honestly, never knew that a server had a capacity of staff members.

Just a quick edit; Your ego must be set pretty high and have a higher perspective upon yourself, hey?

Yeah. I've had this conversation with Gabe and he's said the same thing about the person you think I am: Someone who befriends everyone, posts fake responses etc.
I'm not that person. As much as you think I am, I'm not.. I can't really back myself up on that because it's a matter of opinion so you'll just have to take my word for it.
About the quote: Everything I have said about myself regarding my own stance in this community has come entirely from the community itself: Just look at my 3 month feedback thread and you'll see. I don't make judgements about myself regarding other people's opinions of me.

N0vlafye Wrote:[COLOR="Black"][SIZE="3"]
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Overall....we're on good terms. We've dealt with a bit together, skyped, had some fun. I enjoy reading your rants and talking about random things in life. However...the moderator position. You haven't done anything that makes you better than anybody else. You're active, but you've stated it yourself: you're depressed, and addicted (sort of) to alcohol. I'm very split about this. On one hand, you've proven to be a very intelligent, likeable person. On the other hand, this mod app makes everything you did appear fake, just to buy trust and burrow into the community. The way you joined up in Imperium, I let you rise to the top. You did well, but gave up on us when we began hitting hard times. Is this what the server needs? Furthermore, you told me over skype you'd do it in January and let me see it. Posting it early shows overeagerness for the position.

I know I promised my vote to you, but...I really am split. We're still good friends, and I hope this doesn't get in the way.

/no support
Still split, I might change it. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR]

I can see how Imperium is relevant seeing as this post is coming from you. Well I know I didn't cover fully why I decided to leave but you'll remember how I flaked out on doing those events I wanted to do? Yeah. I was never fully committed to the clan, when I felt that I should have been, so I decided to leave, to save people from further disappointment. Not sure if that has any relevance but oh well... Now you know.
And yeah, I know what I promised but maybe I was impatient, but I also felt like I had finished something before it had even started if you get my shitty metaphor.. I feel like I've been ready for about a week now, so why wait?
And don't worry. We'll always be friends. I genuinely enjoy talking to you man, and thanks for the feedback. Yours matters more to me than most.[/COLOR]
#39
[COLOR="White"][SIZE="2"]I Don't really know you, but i would want to know you. Smile
I thought you were just a forums person....
/Holding[/SIZE][/COLOR]
#40
Lol, no support, there's more than enough staff atm.


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